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<jasonb> Who is on today?
<markcarey> John Cota of Powerlinks http://www.powerlinks.com
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<jasonb> what was the URL again?
<markcarey> now posted at http://www.seoradio.com/20041221-john-cota-powerlinks.html
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<vikram> Hi
<markcarey> Hi
<vikram> am i late for the show
<jasonb> not sure I hear a different show maybe a old one it is about cold calling..
<vikram> ohhh
<jasonb> but in 20 min I am hoping that the live show will be on..
<vikram> ok thanks for the info
<markcarey> yes, the show starts in 20 minutes on the same audio feed
<jasonb> OK Thanks..
<vikram> ok good
<vikram> Do we have any shows on PPC bidding comming up
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<markcarey> in January we will probably have someoen from http://www.searchignite.com on the show.....
<markcarey> brb
<vikram> ok thanks 
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<jasonb> Last week I Purchased TOP and PR Prowler, after doing what he said in his book I am now in the top 10 on three on the major search engines.
<jasonb> can you believe it?
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<vikram> no thats cool
<vikram> can you please let me know where i can the book online
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<jasonb> It wasnt a book it was an E-Book that Shawn Pringle wrote that came with Total Optimizer pro
<jasonb> the program.
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<vikram> where i can get the ebook
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<vikram> Hi where can i get the ebook
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<Number_One_Fan> Hello everyone
<reenie> hi
<ChopperGuy> Good Morning
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<jasonb> The E-Book comes with TOP you have to buy it.
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<jasonb> http://www.totaloptimizer.com/
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<markcarey> vikram, you can listen to last week's show at http://www.seoradio.com/20041214-pr-prowler-and-total-optimizer-pro.html
<jasonb> Yep It was a great show!
<jasonb> Shawn Rocks!
<Number_One_Fan> Do you have archives off all the past shows?
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<markcarey> yep
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<WpgBri> Where's the radio?
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<markcarey> what do you mean, WpgBri?
<BradFallon> Hey Craig
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<Number_One_Fan> hey Brad
<reenie> it was gone for about 30 seconds for me too
<reenie> it's back now
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<reenie> #2 today
<reenie> www.marketing-2000.net
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<markcarey> #1 from here (Toronto)
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<BradFallon> "email marketing" = #1 too
<Number_One_Fan> #1 here in Calgary
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<reenie> ah - e-mail marketing #2, email marketing #1
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<jasonb> Has anyone tried the power links program?
<mattv> Brad, I have used this service in the past, and I was very concerned about all of his links showing up on everyones pages (something similar to FFA)
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<mattv> can John comment on this?
<BradFallon> You bet -- we're going to get to allthat!
<mattv> I stopped using the service, because I was so unsure, and afraid that Google would penalize me
<BradFallon> I hear ya
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<jasonb> I just signed up and see that there are many catagories and many links will I get penalized?
<mattv> but if this method is ok, I would jump back on it, but Andy was very unsure ...
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<jasonb> I thought that link exchange was bad..
<jasonb> IS it just a rumor.
<jasonb> ?
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<vikram> i think manually link exchange is ok
<mattv> I am really GLAD that Brad is doing this interview!! I have so many questions??
<jasonb> me too..
<thebugster> sorry to interrup but are you guys on air today. your link on your homepage for "LISTEN" points me to the chat
<mattv> That is my question jasonb
<reenie> your chat page should have both the show and chat up
<markcarey> thebugster, the chat page now has an embedded player that is playing the show -- we are live
<thebugster> ok
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<thebugster> i guess my computer is just special today, thanks
<jasonb> I am listening to the show..
<BJ> hey vikram ... how is my website doing for ya these days ....
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<thebugster> im listenting
<BJ> you know ... that lovely diet pill site
<dns> #turkumuz << come
<vikram> what is yur site
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<dns> www.duygusal.tk <<
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<jasonb> my site is www.ciscosavers.com
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<vikram> Hey BJ whats your site
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<BradFallon> Hey the live chat has to scroll now...cool! Thanks for listening everyone!
<jasonb> (=
<jasonb> sure
<Number_One_Fan> It's been awhile... interesting show
<jasonb> We are here to learn..
<reenie> exactly!
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<mattv> This is a very intense subject matter
<mattv> I ahve already had several discussions w/ John from powerlinks.com
<mattv> ... and they weren't really that good
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<jasonb> Mattv what do you mean?
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<MonkeyMan> who's the owner of this room?
<mattv> I really feel, and anyone can correct me, that this strategy is definately right on the edge ...
<BradFallon> Me.
<mattv> of being illegal , as it pertains to Google
<BradFallon> But Mark takes care of everything.
<BradFallon> Yep - very controversial... We'll see...
<mattv> becaue there are so many people that "ALL" of the same exact links on their links pages ...
<MonkeyMan> My names Rob and I'm a network administrator for this chat network
<Number_One_Fan> true
<jasonb> I don't want to take the chance of loosing out in google.
<mattv> me either
<MonkeyMan> I noticed that this room isn't registered and i wanted to stop by and see if y'all wanted any help registering it
<MonkeyMan> (it's free)
<mattv> I was already using this service, but I backed out very scared ...
<mattv> I am still a meber in their forum, but I am not actively using their service
<jasonb> really..
<Dave> why did you back out?
<jasonb> Are they paying atention to this chat on the live program?
<BradFallon> Trying to...
<BradFallon> I don't think John is.
<markcarey> Sure MonkeyMan, I am not an IRC expert....
<MonkeyMan> so you're going to take the ownership of the room?
<mattv> Brad it is just PHP caode that loads the links from their servers and displays them on your page
<Number_One_Fan> How does the PHP code make muliple pages?
<mattv> it doesn't make multiple pages ...
<jasonb> Here is it on my site:
<jasonb> http://www.ciscosavers.com/link_partners2.php
<mattv> it just creates a directory listing, and if you browse the directory, it loads pages from his servers
<markcarey> yes, MonkeyMan, how do I do that (if you want email me mark@seoradio.com)
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<Number_One_Fan> understood, thanks
<MonkeyMan> email would be worthless
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<ephricon> what was his directory URL for marketing-2000???
<MonkeyMan> they're commands that you just type to register your name and room
<MonkeyMan> are you ready to register at this time?
<mattv> Yep, thats it Jasonb ...
<MonkeyMan> (should be quick and easy)
<mattv> thats what it would look like
<jasonb> Is this going to screw me?
<Dave> http://www.marketing-2000.net/pllinks.asp
<ephricon> thanks!
<jasonb> http://www.ciscosavers.com/link_partners.php <<-- with out powerlinks.
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<markcarey> sure, Ia m ready (btw, I am using the Trillian client)
<MonkeyMan> that's no problem
<MonkeyMan> okey dokey
<ephricon> what about INTERLINKING - i.e. all these sites interlink with each other and look "unnatural"
<MonkeyMan> alright, well rooms can only be registered to registered names
<MonkeyMan> so we gotta register your name first
<MonkeyMan> Nickname Registration:
<MonkeyMan> *** Command (type this): /msg NickServ REGISTER YourNewPasswordHere Your@Email.Here
<MonkeyMan> *** Your Password must be at least 5 characters long (Case-Sensitive) and it cannot be your nickname.
<MonkeyMan> *** Please give your real email. It is only for the situation that you forget your password.
<ephricon> i.e. 1,000 sites and they all just link to each other
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<ephricon> the only thing i worry about with their system is that they are all interlinking - can we ask him about this? won't Google see this and see it as unnatural
<jwhite2013> I've traded links manually with about 40 other sites. Does anyone know why according to google's backlink feature non of these links are there. I've had half of them for over 3 months.
<jasonb> Will google see this?
<jasonb> Can you ask him that?
<Number_One_Fan> backlinks are only publicly updated occasionally
<kensav> lol
<jasonb> aboiut interlinking..
<reenie> jwhite - it can take a few months
<MonkeyMan> alright
<jwhite2013> ok, thanks
<Dave> jwhite2031, I'm sure google sees your links (assuming those pages are in google), but they wont' necessarily list them in your backlinks
<MonkeyMan> i see your name is now registered
<MonkeyMan> so now we can register your room
<MonkeyMan> Channel Registration:
<MonkeyMan> *** Command (type this): /msg ChanServ REGISTER #YourChannelNameHere ChannelPasswordHere Channel Description Here
<MonkeyMan> *** The Password is simply for founder-level access to the room, NOT TO ENTER IT.
<MonkeyMan> *** The Channel Password must be at least 5 characters long (Case-Sensitive).
<MonkeyMan> *** The Channel Description is the only part of the command that may have spaces in it. It is not the channel topic, but merely a short description of your room.
<kensav> ?
<mattv> Thats true Dave!
<j1> what about question marks in links?
<ephricon> need for heterogenous links
<jasonb> Thank you for bringing that up on the live radio.
<BradFallon> what Jason?
<ephricon> not ONLY homogenous
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<ephricon> okay good that has addressed it some
<mattv> forum that is ful of questions ...
<ephricon> theoretically i could block out 90% of the categories if i wanted and only list/trade with those highly related to my business???
<Number_One_Fan> sounds like it
<reenie> apparently yes
<jasonb> yep..
<jasonb> Will that matter?
<mattv> I think that may be the key to "staying safe" w/ this program
<Dave> I think the smart way to use this type of link network is as part of an overall link strategy-- i.e.get links from other sites that aren't part of the network
<mattv> YEP!!!
<mattv> thats it Dave
<MonkeyMan> nicely done
<mattv> I may start using this again, but I will also retain my other links directory as well!
<MonkeyMan> alright markcarey
<markcarey> thx for your help
<MonkeyMan> from now on, anyone who uses that name will have to identify to nickserv for use of it
<MonkeyMan> basically, a login
<MonkeyMan> so now
<MonkeyMan> whenever you use that name
<MonkeyMan> you need to type /msg nickserv identify YourPasswordHere
<jasonb> Does anyone here want to exchange links?
<MonkeyMan> this will make nickserv go "oh it's you" and let you use the name
<jasonb> jason@teksavers.com
<MonkeyMan> lol
<markcarey> okay
<MonkeyMan> alrighty
<MonkeyMan> well
<jasonb> Please send email to jason@teksavers if you want to exchange links.
<MonkeyMan> welcome to IRChat and if you need any help with our services, drop by #help and ask an op
<mattv> http://www.unique-wholesale-source.com/partners/index.html you can trade w/ me automatically!!
<ephricon> the search engines favor what they think are NATURAL links - i.e. not automated
<markcarey> thx
<ephricon> thus keeping anchor text that way is preferred
<MonkeyMan> no problem
<MonkeyMan> I'm out, have a good one
<MonkeyMan> later
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<ephricon> switch it around - i agree with what Brad was just saying there
<Dave> Jason, I'll email you about exchanging links.
<jasonb> Sounds good Dave..
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<Dave> they say that, but if you do it right, it's not really that easy for the search engines to know whether it's an automated link or not.
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<ephricon> Dave - thats not what i meant
<ephricon> i mean the anchor text
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<BradFallon> http://www.myweddingfavors.com/linkstous.html
<ephricon> if you have 10,000 links with all the EXACT same anchor text that looks very automated
<ephricon> and its unnatural
<ChopperGuy> does this program filter out if you don't have a link to the hosted site but signup for the service and get backlinks to the site but dont have a link from your domain
<mattv> Brad, lets touch base w/ John when you come back about the best way to vary your anchor text w/ his service..
<BradFallon> CG, I'll ask
<ephricon> b/c people wouldn't voluntarily all happen to choose the same anchor text
<BradFallon> Mattv, ok
<mattv> cool, thanks ..
<SteveR> can you do deep linking with this service or can you only link to your index page?
<BradFallon> SteveR, good question...
<reenie> i wonder if any of the members of the program have found thenselves banned
<ChopperGuy> good question reenie
<mattv> very good question
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<mattv> will your previous anchor text be preserved if you change it? or are you changing all of the existing links
<Dave> ephiricon, good point. I'd like to see a link network that lets you have several titles and destination URLs that you could rotate through to mix it up a little bit and look more 'natural'
<ephricon> yeah, or if you dont use this exclusively you should be okay
<jasonb> Brad I linked to your site from mine. http://www.ciscosavers.com/link_partners.php
<ephricon> that should help out - use this as say 1/3 of your linking efforts and also mix in directory submissions and your own linking campaign (manual)
<jasonb> I have a links page 1 2 etc..
<ChopperGuy> thanks for asking that brad
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<markcarey> if most members host the links pages at powerlinks, how many links do you get from new domains?
<BradFallon> Jason email links@myweddingfavors.com
<ChopperGuy> The Google Speaker at the Webmaster World Conference was asked the vote question and they explained that its based on IP addresses and PR only will be givin once
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<ChopperGuy> they explained how it is somewhat a flag for link buying with multple pages in an IP
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<mattv> Brad, can you ask him if we have seperate accounts for the same website, will we have to host indiviual pages for each account?
<markcarey> it is widely believed that links from different domains are better than 200 links from the same domain.....
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<Dave> can you choose to only get links from members who host their own links pages?
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<ephricon> Dave great question
<jasonb> I lost my radio feed I can see the radio.
<ChopperGuy> good point markcarey
<ephricon> b/c otherwise you'd only be getting links from the powerlinks domain
<mattv> in otherwords, hns service is essentially a directory page ...so do we need to host several of these pages linked from our homepage
<Number_One_Fan> good show
<mattv> yes, good show
<mattv> thanks Brad
<ChopperGuy> thanks brad
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<SteveR> good job Brad
<ephricon> thanks Brad
<reenie> i'm still not sure if I should join though
<mattv> me either .. LOL
<mattv> stil considering
<ephricon> same
<Jay> Brad, would you use his service???
<jasonb> Mattv the manager that you use was it expensive?
<mattv> $67
<mattv>
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<jasonb> Thats not bad...
<ephricon> what program is that mattv?
<mattv> just click the link that says "this directory is easily managed by ..."
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<ephricon> whats your site
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<mattv> go to my links page :http://www.unique-wholesale-source.com/partners/index.html
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<mattv> and click the "blue" link at the top of my directory page
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<mattv> I am running a customized version .. but the default is very easy to work with
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<mattv> however I found that I required some customization
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<mattv> just to tailor to my needs
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<ChopperGuy> how long have you been using this mattv
<mattv> there are severl "groups that are using this software such as www.honeslinks.net
<mattv> "www.honestlinks.com"
<mattv> I sorry .. it is ".net"
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<ChopperGuy> http://www.choppersapparel.com/directory/index.html
<reenie> well have a nice holiday everyone
<mattv> for quite some time now. I also know several other people that Brad and I are associated with that are using it as well
<reenie> good luck on the search engines!
<ChopperGuy> I am using Arelis
<mattv> ah ...
<mattv> very painful process
<mattv> I used to use it, but now I wouldn't using anything other than what I am using now!
<mattv> it is just so easy to manage your links
<ChopperGuy> but you have no PR
<mattv>
no, not yet ...
<jasonb> mattv I added your site to my link page and used your system.
<jasonb> http://www.ciscosavers.com/link_partners.php
<mattv> I should get the first update from G sometime next month
<mattv> update of my first PR ..
<ChopperGuy> cool
<jasonb> Does any one else want to trade links jason@teksavers.com
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<jasonb> Hey Chopper GUY!!!
<ChopperGuy> whats up
<jasonb> Well after talking with you last week..
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